Why does Vietnam look much more modern and developed than India?
Two travellers A anrd B start from city X to city Y which are 500 miles apart.
They both leave at 6am and arrive by 4pm. They both had stops for meals, restroom, cooling off, puncture etc.
Someone who just looks at the start time and end time will conclude that they both drove at an average speed of 50mph.
Someone who observed A when B was taking breaks would say that A is faster, while someone who observed B when he was trying to make up for time lost would say that B is faster. They would both be opposed by the one who observed them when they were moving together.
I don't know much about Vietnam, but maybe it is in the faster phase of development and comparing with India without looking at overall picture is as futile as comparing the 2 drivers above by looking at their driving for 10 mins only. Besides we don't even know whether they have the same car, same number of passengers, same level of experience etc.
That's why Vietnamese is smarter than Indians. They are becoming more richer than Indians. They spend their money wisely to speed up the economical development, although there are dispute here and there too. In particular, Vietnam has been using India to get involved into the disputes where India has no disputes initially, in order to divert the dispute from Vietnam to India.
Dinh Doan, studied at Harvard School of Public Health
surely is Indian, They have a good evironment policy and they have more technical people than Vietnam. Vietnam still develop with planing economic strategy therfore they face with many problem when they develop, ie: corruption and imballance between demand and productive, The structure of economic is not suitable and the bank system is not clear
First you need to be clear as to where you went in India and where in Vietnam. You might have traveled just a couple of cities. India is a very strong economy and is extremely stable. It is because the government policy has little impact on most of the trade done by its people. The on paper analysis is unreliable because it just does not have the right statistic - as it is never collected.
My fellow countrymen have a habit of answering every question even if they don’t have a clue. Most of the “Answers” here are Paper facts which persuaded me to answer this:
Background: In the beginning of this year, I traveled some 5000 KM from north to South of Vietnam on a motorbike and in between staying in various villages,towns, cities etc.
All the time we were comparing the economy, culture, cleanliness/dirtiness, poverty etc with India.
Some remote village house up in the north (Lang Son Province). The owner of this house gave us free shelter and food for the night. The toilet was just a big hole in the ground. Yet, the lady had an iphone 4s. Not possible in India!
Rural village roads just like India.
Small Town at Chinese Border. Notice the Suvs, these were rare sights compared to India.
Railway Station Market in Hanoi. Exactly similar to Sadar Bazar Delhi. Bit more cleaner.
The above photos shows how ,on surface, Vietnam looks similar to India.
Differences we saw and reasons I speculated :
Inequality : On Paper Gini cofficient of both the countries are similar (39-In , 37-Vn). But you don’t need a Bird’s eye to see the reality on Ground. While travelling, I hardly encountered SUVs and Sedans. Everyone is on a motorbike! While, in India walk few Kms in a city and chances are you have seen a super rich and hand to mouth Guy.
Poverty: Again Income per capita (PPP) is simillar $6400 (Vn) and $7100(In). However, I didn’t encounter a single Beggar or roadside malnourished children in Vietnam (may be there are places). Here in India, even in the so called developed state of Tamil Nadu, you can easily find Poverty on your face (hint: Meenakshi Temple).
Reason: Low level of literacy, prevalent caste system in Rural India, Big population with inadequate resources. The later is a big reason because I didn’t see beggars and hand to mouth folks in Nagaland and Meghalaya.
Rich Poor Divide : In India, it’s easy judge a person by his Personality and attire. Rickshaw puller will mostly look like a rickshaw puller. But in Vietnam, damn… the roadside girls in trendy dresses selling corn (Bhutte wali) were so beautiful. Even girls working in small village restaurant had iphones.
Reason: I chatted with couple of people in Vietnam. A common answer was big consumerism (just like america). Earn and enjoy culture. Here in India, people start saving for their children,for their grand children, for home loan etc.
Cleanliness: Every foreign traveler knows “which is the dirtiest country in the world?”. I won’t say Vietnam is cleaner, some parts were clean some were giving close competition to our cities. (Still cities of UP are truly unconquerable )
Reason: I noticed majority of Vietnamese too don’t have civic senses just like we Indians. It’s just the population in India is (especially UP,Bihar, Bengal) huge consequently so is the trash.
A clean Town in Vietnam!
Infrastructure: This part was more or less similar. Just the Civic infrastructure was better in small towns (with Proper sewerage etc). Hanoi was similar to Delhi. Old quarters was similar to Connaught Place (Just bit cleaner and less chaotic)
Reason: Again India is a democracy (somewhat flawed), so you need ‘N’ no of things before you start implementing something.
There many other difference as well like food, conservative/liberal culture etc. But I think those are not related to “modern” look!
Last thing traveling brought me out of my Nationalistic Cocoon.
Harshil Vora, Mechanical Engineer
I agree with Soumendu Majee. In addition to that If we assume your claim to be true of Vietnam performing better than India, Lets have a look at the advantages and disadvantages of staying in Vietnam instead of India.
Lets see some advantages first:
Now lets see some disadvantages:
And one neutral point would be:
The disadvantages don't seem much relevant on per day basis. But going by 5 or 10 year plan or more, It does produce more concern on society, environment and standard of living!
Vaibhav Khairnar, studies at Savitribai Phule Pune University (2019)
No, vietnam is not more modern or developed than india.
And Its unfair comparison. Bcoz
How can You compare
1250 million against 90 million?
33 lakh sq km against 3 lakh square km??
And if u still want to compare and say vietnam is more developed then:
i)india has 450 million people living in middle class and above which is FIVE times vietnam, their avg life is far better than avg vietnamese.can you compare??
ii)indias space technology ISRO (first asian and only the second after NASA to reach mars) against vietnams space technology. Can you compare??
iii)indias IT technology,business hubs, innovations,manufacturing, big MNCs, startups Against vietnams. Can you compare???
iv)indias military, economy, political influence, logistics, bollywood, media, sports, science and technology, airports,institutions etc etc…compare this with vietnam??
v)narendra modi(9 th most powerful person on the planet according to forbes 2015) against xuan phuc
vi)At last, indias global muscle power against vietnams…. can you compare??
Leave aside india, lets compare vietnam with mumbai.
Vietnam gdp =195 Billion $(2015)
Vietnam gdp growth rate= 5. 4%
Mumbai gdp=278 billion $(2014)
Mumbai gdp growth rate=6. 2 %
So, i dont know how vietnam is more developed, when Mumbai alone has bigger and faster growing gdp than vietnam.
Look Both the countries are developing nations, i know vietnam is one of the fastest growing economies, it is also very important and prominent nation in south East Asia and a great strategic partner of india.
india has got its problems which should be fixed and maybe vietnam being a small country compared to india is a bit developed in rural areas(which i seriously doubt) .. also i dont know which part of india u visited but regardless of that India is just too big to compare with vietnam.
So ur question is completely wrong or i guess U are just trolling.
Robert Charles Lee, Printbroker, financial printer, ex-lawyer
I think Vietnam seems to be doing better than India mainly because most projects don't seem to run into the kind of deadweight inertia of bureaucracy that characterise or typify India. So projects in Vietnam seem to move along relatively quicker there than the similar in India.
The way I understand it, the statistics are still in India's favour overall. Then again, those statistics may be a little misleading too. Notwithstanding the technical definitions, India has never had a closed economy (even though it might not necessarily have an 'open' one from time to time). India has always traded with the rest of the world, problematic it may have been from time to time in the past.
By contrast, Vietnam was closed off practically completely from 1975 until actual economic liberalisation came in the mid-1990s and really got moving in the early 2000s.
But like the others have highlighted, Vietnam is a rather homogeneous society and has a centralised way of governance, both of which helps considerably. India is a highly heterogeneous society by history and culture and the state is nowhere as centralised as it bills itself, so India has a much steeper uphill to get things done.
So far, that's the picture that appears to me about both countries. So far, both countries are trying to do the right thing and move in the right direction.
Peter Topping, ASEAN nerd, Indonesia fan and Myanmar watcher with Vietnamese neighbours.
It is not a fare comparison to make, Vietnam is only 90 million peoples, it is much more historically, culturally and social integrated as a society, it has a tightly controlled command economy that is very very good at getting things done, it has a highly motivated work force and peripheral experience of the China manufacturer ing supply chain, the leadership has well defined national development goals and the means to deliver them.
India is a new nation created from the British Raj of over a billion people， in a democratic federal system with weak central Government, more than 100 languages and 250 dialects with no integrated infrastructure and a whole sub continent to contend with.
Totally differen scenarios. How ever I would say while Vietnam has been incredibly dynamic and focused since 1996 India has not. The decades 1979 to 1999 were wasted opportunities for India compared to China and ASEAN，now she is begining to pick up her game but it will be hard, look at Modi struggles to pass a basic sales tax, India needs national and state based nationally looking infrastructure urgently.
So Vietnam has one major back bone highway, one major rail route，one national telco，one main airline, one main language， two principal cities，5 —7 regional centres, a national education system, one police, customs and civil service， one set of laws， one set of holidays, one main and 2 more minor religions but India has that in every state.
Trọng Đạt, works at Ho Chi Minh City
Vietnam look much more modern and developed ??
Vietnam development through the country, de-central economics, So Vietnam ‘s development totally different with Asia nation like Thailand, Malaysia, Phillpin, or Indoensia who only focus in their Capital cities
That why Vietnam “modern and development” will spread to all Vietnamese in every provinces and cities
your question truly considered that Vietnam development is Fake so you put “look like “ words in your sentences?
It's a matter of priorities.
-India is far too obsessed about its defence equipment. It is currently the biggest importer of of defence weaponry in the world.
-It is currently engaged in a high intensity spy op in Pakistan thru Balochistan, and needs to spend a lot of money which goes unaccounted for.
-India has strong caste and creed system with people like scheduled classes. These people, dalits, will over time, 1000 year laters be still scheduled classes, since in hindu religion, a dalit cannot be equal to a brahmin or any higher caste in terms of status and money brings you status and standard.
-India has too much population. It is growing at the fastest rate in the world and india cannot uplift these people. China has done that through population control but india is not willing to do that since it will not work in india and also that hindus in india feel threatened by growing muslim population.
-india has most poverty in the world which contributes to bringing down the per capita considerably, although educated people might earn normally.
Chances are that india despite its growth will never be able to really perform as a developed country because of its inherent hodge podge of religions, castes, creeds, nations living there. And poverty will continue to grow and people will earn less and less since population is exploding at alarming rate.
Megha, Travel junkie, adventure lover, Senior Writer with Holidayme.com
Depends on what context you're asking - economically, from a travel perspective, culturally, etc.
From a culture and travel point of view, it is almost difficult to compare the two. Both India and Vietnam are countries blessed with stunning landscapes, sheer natural beauty, best of cuisines (maybe India takes a slight lead on this one), rich culture, beautiful cities, local traditional villages, rich heritage, and so much more!
Economically, India stands at a much better place than Vietnam. India is a booking IT hub, and is technologically nearly at par with the most developed countries of the world. India is way more industrialized than Vietnam. Also, Vietnam comes no where close to India when it comes to military might and overall clout in Asia.
Vietnam is more richer than India.
Vietnam is smarter than India.
Vietnam is able to focus more on economical development than India.
Vietnam can invite India to against China, and more focused on economical development.